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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/groundhog-day/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madmax that is such a great comparison (your first comment).  The similarities could go point for point on so many levels it&#039;s marvelous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madmax that is such a great comparison (your first comment).  The similarities could go point for point on so many levels it&#8217;s marvelous.</p>
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		<title>By: Madmax</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/groundhog-day/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>Madmax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If that trend is reversing, then it means that the religious fundamentals of conservatism are asserting themselves.&quot;

If the religious fundamentals of conservatism start to assert themselves aggressively we will see this through the massive cultural movement of Christian and religious literalism. This is starting to happen but I still think it is in its early stages. 

The conservatives are really divided here into two main groups; the *fundamentally* religious and the *predominantly* secular. The secular faction - like a John Derbyshire and David Brooks - are basically skeptics. They share the same philosophical bona-fides as the left. They are totally beholden to pragmatism and thus are intellectually impotent. 

But the religious faction, on the other hand, rejects pragmatism, egalitarianism, relativism, etc. They are aggressively medieval.  This is the movement of Russel Kirk (and sadly to a lesser extent of Edmund Burke which is unfortunate as he himself was a Classical liberal) which hates secularism, classical liberalism, individualism (which it sees as ultimately subversive) , evolution and personal freedom in the sexual realm.  They also tend to be either soft or hard racists (the soft version would be the kind that champions the &quot;European peoples&quot;.)

These conservatives are not for the most part mainstream conservatives, but they have a growing internet presence.  Charles Johnson of LGF has been exposing them and they hate him for it. When we see this branch of conservatism with its dark age mysticism become noticeably visible then we will have  another beast on our hands. Also, if that should happen I suspect we might see a cultural civil war; secular vs religious. We, of course, will be clumped in with the &quot;liberals&quot;.

So many storm clouds on the horizon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If that trend is reversing, then it means that the religious fundamentals of conservatism are asserting themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the religious fundamentals of conservatism start to assert themselves aggressively we will see this through the massive cultural movement of Christian and religious literalism. This is starting to happen but I still think it is in its early stages. </p>
<p>The conservatives are really divided here into two main groups; the *fundamentally* religious and the *predominantly* secular. The secular faction &#8211; like a John Derbyshire and David Brooks &#8211; are basically skeptics. They share the same philosophical bona-fides as the left. They are totally beholden to pragmatism and thus are intellectually impotent. </p>
<p>But the religious faction, on the other hand, rejects pragmatism, egalitarianism, relativism, etc. They are aggressively medieval.  This is the movement of Russel Kirk (and sadly to a lesser extent of Edmund Burke which is unfortunate as he himself was a Classical liberal) which hates secularism, classical liberalism, individualism (which it sees as ultimately subversive) , evolution and personal freedom in the sexual realm.  They also tend to be either soft or hard racists (the soft version would be the kind that champions the &#8220;European peoples&#8221;.)</p>
<p>These conservatives are not for the most part mainstream conservatives, but they have a growing internet presence.  Charles Johnson of LGF has been exposing them and they hate him for it. When we see this branch of conservatism with its dark age mysticism become noticeably visible then we will have  another beast on our hands. Also, if that should happen I suspect we might see a cultural civil war; secular vs religious. We, of course, will be clumped in with the &#8220;liberals&#8221;.</p>
<p>So many storm clouds on the horizon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Myrhaf</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/groundhog-day/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrhaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the word conservative had any meaning, then David Brooks would be considered the purest conservative in America. He wants to conserve the status quo, big government.  What we need is radical change, not conservation of the welfare state.

To equate liberty with nihilism is so loathsome it could only come from a conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the word conservative had any meaning, then David Brooks would be considered the purest conservative in America. He wants to conserve the status quo, big government.  What we need is radical change, not conservation of the welfare state.</p>
<p>To equate liberty with nihilism is so loathsome it could only come from a conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/groundhog-day/#comment-1005</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/2/24/231144/772&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;data point&lt;/a&gt;:
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&#8230; to just ignore all that and just say &quot;government is the problem, corruption, earmarks, wasteful spending,&quot; it&#039;s just a form of nihilism.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another <a href="http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/2/24/231144/772" rel="nofollow">data point</a>:</p>
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&hellip; to just ignore all that and just say &#8220;government is the problem, corruption, earmarks, wasteful spending,&#8221; it&#8217;s just a form of nihilism.
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		<title>By: Mike N</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/groundhog-day/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All we had was economic anarchy.&quot; I&#039;m glad you mentioned that. I just want to point out that there is no such thing as economic anarchy as you no doubt know. Anarchy is a political concept and has no place in economics.

It would be like studying geologic health care. Except that rocks don&#039;t get sick or break limbs or feel bad. Sound stupid? Sure. But no more stupid than &#039;political economics&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All we had was economic anarchy.&#8221; I&#8217;m glad you mentioned that. I just want to point out that there is no such thing as economic anarchy as you no doubt know. Anarchy is a political concept and has no place in economics.</p>
<p>It would be like studying geologic health care. Except that rocks don&#8217;t get sick or break limbs or feel bad. Sound stupid? Sure. But no more stupid than &#8216;political economics&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim May</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/groundhog-day/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark makes an interesting observation.

Many times I have noted that while conservatism is anti-intellectual at root, conservatism seems to have surpassed the degenerating Left in that department.

If that trend is reversing, then it means that the religious fundamentals of conservatism are asserting themselves.

If so, it means that the growth of  anti-intellectualism in the culture as a whole might start picking up speed as both &quot;sides&quot; move away from the intellect.

It&#039;s good in terms of the opportunity that exists for us to fill the void -- but bad in terms of what that portends for the culture at large.  

It means we&#039;re the only ones who are in a position to stop it -- and time is growing short.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark makes an interesting observation.</p>
<p>Many times I have noted that while conservatism is anti-intellectual at root, conservatism seems to have surpassed the degenerating Left in that department.</p>
<p>If that trend is reversing, then it means that the religious fundamentals of conservatism are asserting themselves.</p>
<p>If so, it means that the growth of  anti-intellectualism in the culture as a whole might start picking up speed as both &#8220;sides&#8221; move away from the intellect.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good in terms of the opportunity that exists for us to fill the void &#8212; but bad in terms of what that portends for the culture at large.  </p>
<p>It means we&#8217;re the only ones who are in a position to stop it &#8212; and time is growing short.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrhaf</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/groundhog-day/#comment-1000</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrhaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, way back in the 80&#039;s George Reisman wrote a review of Sowell&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465002056/thenewcla-20/ref=nosim/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;cite&gt;A Conflict of Visions&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in &lt;i&gt;The Intellectual Activist&lt;/i&gt; that took the author to task for trying to get around philosophy with the vague idea of &quot;visions.&quot; Still, every now and then Sowell comes up with an acute observation.

Burgess, thanks. It will be a long struggle, but not, as Whittaker Chambers or James Burnham might have had it, a &quot;twilight struggle.&quot; Instead it is a darkness before the dawn struggle. 45 years ago Ayn Rand famously wrote, &quot;It is earlier than you think.&quot; It still is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, way back in the 80&#8242;s George Reisman wrote a review of Sowell&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0465002056/thenewcla-20/ref=nosim/" rel="nofollow"><cite>A Conflict of Visions</cite></a> in <i>The Intellectual Activist</i> that took the author to task for trying to get around philosophy with the vague idea of &#8220;visions.&#8221; Still, every now and then Sowell comes up with an acute observation.</p>
<p>Burgess, thanks. It will be a long struggle, but not, as Whittaker Chambers or James Burnham might have had it, a &#8220;twilight struggle.&#8221; Instead it is a darkness before the dawn struggle. 45 years ago Ayn Rand famously wrote, &#8220;It is earlier than you think.&#8221; It still is.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/groundhog-day/#comment-999</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a really good point.  And of course the religionists don&#039;t stop there.  This designer entity also issues commandments which they must follow (or else), rewards the virtuous (faithful), and punishes the evil (non-believers, other faiths, etc.).  In the same way, the central planner issues regulations, hands out subsidies, and punishes the bad (men of productive genius) through taxation and other coercions.

In both cases, it&#039;s the unproductive or meek who are esteemed.  Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a really good point.  And of course the religionists don&#8217;t stop there.  This designer entity also issues commandments which they must follow (or else), rewards the virtuous (faithful), and punishes the evil (non-believers, other faiths, etc.).  In the same way, the central planner issues regulations, hands out subsidies, and punishes the bad (men of productive genius) through taxation and other coercions.</p>
<p>In both cases, it&#8217;s the unproductive or meek who are esteemed.  Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Madmax</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/groundhog-day/#comment-998</link>
		<dc:creator>Madmax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creationists believe that without a designer there would be no life in general and no human life in particular.  Random genetic mutation could never have produced life they scream. Human life is far to intricate to ever have emerged without a central creator/designer. Without the designer there would be nothing but random chaos and only secularists could believe such a foolish thing.

Socialists believe that without a central planner there would be no orderly market. The market is far too complicated a phenomenon to leave up to free - and selfish - individuals they scream.  In order to have a fair, orderly market there needs to be a central economic planner. Chaos would ensue without one and only free market ideologues could ever believe otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creationists believe that without a designer there would be no life in general and no human life in particular.  Random genetic mutation could never have produced life they scream. Human life is far to intricate to ever have emerged without a central creator/designer. Without the designer there would be nothing but random chaos and only secularists could believe such a foolish thing.</p>
<p>Socialists believe that without a central planner there would be no orderly market. The market is far too complicated a phenomenon to leave up to free &#8211; and selfish &#8211; individuals they scream.  In order to have a fair, orderly market there needs to be a central economic planner. Chaos would ensue without one and only free market ideologues could ever believe otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Burgess Laughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burgess Laughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myrhaf, thank you for another perceptive and encouraging essay. Ideas are the cause of actions. Objective ideas can replace nonobjective ideas. To do so will require a lot of work from a lot of individuals over many years. It can be done.

Anti-intellectualism won&#039;t do it. Emotional venting won&#039;t do it. Studying, thinking, discussing, and then widely proclaiming the better ideas will do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myrhaf, thank you for another perceptive and encouraging essay. Ideas are the cause of actions. Objective ideas can replace nonobjective ideas. To do so will require a lot of work from a lot of individuals over many years. It can be done.</p>
<p>Anti-intellectualism won&#8217;t do it. Emotional venting won&#8217;t do it. Studying, thinking, discussing, and then widely proclaiming the better ideas will do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark V. Kormes</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/groundhog-day/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark V. Kormes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://rationalpassion.livejournal.com/89512.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; over at my place on just how far Sowell has fallen.  I am afraid that even people I once considered the &quot;best&quot; of the conservatives, like Sowell and Limbaugh, are increasingly prone to cranky non-intellectual ranting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a <a href="http://rationalpassion.livejournal.com/89512.html" rel="nofollow">post</a> over at my place on just how far Sowell has fallen.  I am afraid that even people I once considered the &#8220;best&#8221; of the conservatives, like Sowell and Limbaugh, are increasingly prone to cranky non-intellectual ranting.</p>
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