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		<title>By: Mike N</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/theyll-say-anything/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim:
You&#039;re right in that Will should have tried harder to fact check his data. But I have to reject the implied idea that critics of the AGW mantra must always be 100% accurate when the advocates of same don&#039;t have to be accurate at all. George Will is an influencial columnist and if his article influences some people to question the establishment orthodoxy then good for him. Most people today are influenced by authority figures rather than facts. That&#039;s why the alarmists are currently carrying the day. They are all &#039;authorities&#039; who are bought and paid for by government.

The link you provided at LGF cited data from NSIDC and AARC that supposedly refutes Will&#039;s claims. But a post at &lt;a href=&quot;http://icecap.us/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IceCap&lt;/a&gt; looks at the reuters story and links to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/disappearing-arctic-ice-latest-climate-falsehood&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this site&lt;/a&gt; which explains that:&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;As with the NASA Russian temperature debacle last year and the forced recalculation of US surface temperatures for the last century in 2007, the latest problem was discovered after NSIDC received emails from puzzled readers, asking why obviously sea-ice-covered regions were showing up as ice free open ocean. A statement on the NSIDC web site, published February 18, 2009, explains the current faux pas this way:

As some of our readers have already noticed, there was a significant problem with the daily sea ice data images on February 16. The problem arose from a malfunction of the satellite sensor we use for our daily sea ice products. Upon further investigation, we discovered that starting around early January, an error known as sensor drift caused a slowly growing underestimation of Arctic sea ice extent. The underestimation reached approximately 500,000 square kilometers (193,000 square miles) by mid-February. Sensor drift, although infrequent, does occasionally occur and it is one of the things that we account for during quality control measures prior to archiving the data.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Today&#039;s 2/26/09 Detroit News has an AP article titled &quot;Scientists find Antarctic glaciers are melting faster&quot; in which there was no mention of the fact that it is summer now there and sometimes ice melts during that time. I&#039;m sure that even if Will was right on with his facts he still would have been attacked as being wrong is some way. Besides, if one of Will&#039;s data was wrong, and that&#039;s what it looks like, who&#039;s fault was that? It is not the job of reporters to correct bad data for scientists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim:<br />
You&#8217;re right in that Will should have tried harder to fact check his data. But I have to reject the implied idea that critics of the AGW mantra must always be 100% accurate when the advocates of same don&#8217;t have to be accurate at all. George Will is an influencial columnist and if his article influences some people to question the establishment orthodoxy then good for him. Most people today are influenced by authority figures rather than facts. That&#8217;s why the alarmists are currently carrying the day. They are all &#8216;authorities&#8217; who are bought and paid for by government.</p>
<p>The link you provided at LGF cited data from NSIDC and AARC that supposedly refutes Will&#8217;s claims. But a post at <a href="http://icecap.us/index.php" rel="nofollow">IceCap</a> looks at the reuters story and links to <a href="http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/disappearing-arctic-ice-latest-climate-falsehood" rel="nofollow">this site</a> which explains that:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;As with the NASA Russian temperature debacle last year and the forced recalculation of US surface temperatures for the last century in 2007, the latest problem was discovered after NSIDC received emails from puzzled readers, asking why obviously sea-ice-covered regions were showing up as ice free open ocean. A statement on the NSIDC web site, published February 18, 2009, explains the current faux pas this way:</p>
<p>As some of our readers have already noticed, there was a significant problem with the daily sea ice data images on February 16. The problem arose from a malfunction of the satellite sensor we use for our daily sea ice products. Upon further investigation, we discovered that starting around early January, an error known as sensor drift caused a slowly growing underestimation of Arctic sea ice extent. The underestimation reached approximately 500,000 square kilometers (193,000 square miles) by mid-February. Sensor drift, although infrequent, does occasionally occur and it is one of the things that we account for during quality control measures prior to archiving the data.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Today&#8217;s 2/26/09 Detroit News has an AP article titled &#8220;Scientists find Antarctic glaciers are melting faster&#8221; in which there was no mention of the fact that it is summer now there and sometimes ice melts during that time. I&#8217;m sure that even if Will was right on with his facts he still would have been attacked as being wrong is some way. Besides, if one of Will&#8217;s data was wrong, and that&#8217;s what it looks like, who&#8217;s fault was that? It is not the job of reporters to correct bad data for scientists.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim May</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/theyll-say-anything/#comment-1007</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to LGF, Will did indeed make quite a few errors in his article, &lt;a href=&quot;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32851_George_Will_Misrepresents_Climate_Change_Study&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32861_George_Will_Misrepresents_Climate_Change_Study_Part_Deux&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;..

This is another case of where a half-measure can be worse than none; sloppy work enables the enemy to use its errors to discredit the source -- and by association, whatever facts inconvenient to their cause that happen to be in the same article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to LGF, Will did indeed make quite a few errors in his article, <a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32851_George_Will_Misrepresents_Climate_Change_Study" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32861_George_Will_Misrepresents_Climate_Change_Study_Part_Deux" rel="nofollow">here</a>..</p>
<p>This is another case of where a half-measure can be worse than none; sloppy work enables the enemy to use its errors to discredit the source &#8212; and by association, whatever facts inconvenient to their cause that happen to be in the same article.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike N</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/theyll-say-anything/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seine:
Yes I neglected to mention Czech president Klaus. I&#039;m a fan of his at least on the issue of climate change. He&#039;s also doing prety good with the Czech economy. We need someone of his intellegence here. Sadly, most of the people in our government are brain dead little children intellectually. Most of the House and Senate are this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seine:<br />
Yes I neglected to mention Czech president Klaus. I&#8217;m a fan of his at least on the issue of climate change. He&#8217;s also doing prety good with the Czech economy. We need someone of his intellegence here. Sadly, most of the people in our government are brain dead little children intellectually. Most of the House and Senate are this way.</p>
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		<title>By: seine</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/02/theyll-say-anything/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>seine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You neglected to mention that Vaclav Klaus, President of the Czech republic, is the one western leader that seems to have a commitment to reason, at least as far as global warming is concerned. Could that attitude possibly have affected his economic thinking as well?
As the Czech republic is leading the E.U. for this six month stint, might we see some fiscal sanity from them as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You neglected to mention that Vaclav Klaus, President of the Czech republic, is the one western leader that seems to have a commitment to reason, at least as far as global warming is concerned. Could that attitude possibly have affected his economic thinking as well?<br />
As the Czech republic is leading the E.U. for this six month stint, might we see some fiscal sanity from them as well?</p>
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