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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate for Today</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/05/more-wrong-headed-advice-for-republicans/#comment-2796</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate for Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 17:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A. Dalton said:

&lt;I&gt;To people like Michael Barone and David Brooks, politics is a self-referential game in which legislative victory or electoral victory is the sole standard of what is “practical.” They seem unable to fathom that there is an external reality&lt;/I&gt;

I&#039;d have to agree with this.

At some point you have to have both strategy AND a point of drawing ideological lines in the sand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A. Dalton said:</p>
<p><i>To people like Michael Barone and David Brooks, politics is a self-referential game in which legislative victory or electoral victory is the sole standard of what is “practical.” They seem unable to fathom that there is an external reality</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to agree with this.</p>
<p>At some point you have to have both strategy AND a point of drawing ideological lines in the sand.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate for Today</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/05/more-wrong-headed-advice-for-republicans/#comment-2794</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate for Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 17:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spector is good riddance.

Why claim him or be haunted any more than spraying the kitchen with Lysol will have us be &quot;haunted&quot; for the nasty smells?

Like Mark Steyn said, conservatives need to solidify the party, yes, and we can&#039;t run a 1/2 conservatism to combat the New Statism.
But not at certain prices of trying to make the tent so large as it includes anyone who takes contrarian views to free markets and limited govenment.

Get on board, or vamoose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spector is good riddance.</p>
<p>Why claim him or be haunted any more than spraying the kitchen with Lysol will have us be &#8220;haunted&#8221; for the nasty smells?</p>
<p>Like Mark Steyn said, conservatives need to solidify the party, yes, and we can&#8217;t run a 1/2 conservatism to combat the New Statism.<br />
But not at certain prices of trying to make the tent so large as it includes anyone who takes contrarian views to free markets and limited govenment.</p>
<p>Get on board, or vamoose.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Advocate for Today</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/05/more-wrong-headed-advice-for-republicans/#comment-2793</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Advocate for Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 17:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;He is against all abortion, endorsed Romney, and is anti-immigration, etc.
&lt;/I&gt;

True as far as grammatically correct, but then context is key here:

Even the pro-choicers claim they are against abortion merely to have little sis fit into her prom dress on demand,  I hardly see much wrong with Romney as a conservative, nor is the distinction here known that for Objectivists and libertarians the notion of a border that leaks worse than a spaghetti strainer a good thing.

Some do benefit from having golf courses and roofs fixed for El Cheapo, but long term we all know where liberal Democrats are grooming their new voting bloc.

NO?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He is against all abortion, endorsed Romney, and is anti-immigration, etc.<br />
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<p>True as far as grammatically correct, but then context is key here:</p>
<p>Even the pro-choicers claim they are against abortion merely to have little sis fit into her prom dress on demand,  I hardly see much wrong with Romney as a conservative, nor is the distinction here known that for Objectivists and libertarians the notion of a border that leaks worse than a spaghetti strainer a good thing.</p>
<p>Some do benefit from having golf courses and roofs fixed for El Cheapo, but long term we all know where liberal Democrats are grooming their new voting bloc.</p>
<p>NO?</p>
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		<title>By: brad harper : fighting pennies and smiles : Μολών Λaβέ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pragmatism 101</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad harper : fighting pennies and smiles : Μολών Λaβέ &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pragmatism 101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] unity within her party is non-existent and makes an attempt to define some basic tenets. Just like others on the right, the prescription is a call for pragmatism. The poles that keep up the tent are the party&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] unity within her party is non-existent and makes an attempt to define some basic tenets. Just like others on the right, the prescription is a call for pragmatism. The poles that keep up the tent are the party&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Myrhaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myrhaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe George Gilder argued that expecting to make a profit is based on faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe George Gilder argued that expecting to make a profit is based on faith.</p>
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		<title>By: L-C</title>
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		<dc:creator>L-C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 10:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The free market advocacy of religious conservaties is just as based on faith  as their religious beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The free market advocacy of religious conservaties is just as based on faith  as their religious beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: madmax</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 06:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeMint is the classic mixture of religious conservatism and a decent respect for free markets. From what I have observed it seems that if any politician is going to be pro-free market they are going to be religious. There are no secular pro-liberty politicians. In fact the more secular the politician the more leftist he/she will be.

This is the one of the fundamental problems with the culture - a subjectivist / intrinsicist split. There just are no secular free market defenders out there with the exception of Objectivists and a few libertarians. But even with the libertarians you see the same thing - Christian libertarians like Ron Paul or on the other side the secular anarchists who sometimes seem like they are all EvPsych type determinists. 

It looks like if the best Republicans were to capture the country we would end up with a smaller welfare-state but a much, much more Christian culture. I think many Objectivists would probably choose a bigger welfare-state but with a secular culture if they had to choose between the two.  Unless Objectivism becomes popular there will be no popular secular pro-liberty movement. Where would it come from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeMint is the classic mixture of religious conservatism and a decent respect for free markets. From what I have observed it seems that if any politician is going to be pro-free market they are going to be religious. There are no secular pro-liberty politicians. In fact the more secular the politician the more leftist he/she will be.</p>
<p>This is the one of the fundamental problems with the culture &#8211; a subjectivist / intrinsicist split. There just are no secular free market defenders out there with the exception of Objectivists and a few libertarians. But even with the libertarians you see the same thing &#8211; Christian libertarians like Ron Paul or on the other side the secular anarchists who sometimes seem like they are all EvPsych type determinists. </p>
<p>It looks like if the best Republicans were to capture the country we would end up with a smaller welfare-state but a much, much more Christian culture. I think many Objectivists would probably choose a bigger welfare-state but with a secular culture if they had to choose between the two.  Unless Objectivism becomes popular there will be no popular secular pro-liberty movement. Where would it come from?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeMint is the usual mixed case with a lot of bad points offsetting the good.  He is against all abortion, endorsed Romney, and is anti-immigration, etc.

I checked him out last year after seeing his anti-bailout speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeMint is the usual mixed case with a lot of bad points offsetting the good.  He is against all abortion, endorsed Romney, and is anti-immigration, etc.</p>
<p>I checked him out last year after seeing his anti-bailout speech.</p>
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		<title>By: TW</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 01:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your assessment of DeMint (just based on this comment of his, not on any other knowledge I have about him).  It *is* far better to stand for something consistent and principled and tell people clearly and honestly what you stand for.  

I can&#039;t help thinking that this, in the long term, is what will earn any party a basic level of respect even of those who do not fully endorse its platform, and is a necessary condition for success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your assessment of DeMint (just based on this comment of his, not on any other knowledge I have about him).  It *is* far better to stand for something consistent and principled and tell people clearly and honestly what you stand for.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help thinking that this, in the long term, is what will earn any party a basic level of respect even of those who do not fully endorse its platform, and is a necessary condition for success.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis Plumb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis Plumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 00:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brooks, Barone and most of the writers at the Bureau of Punditry depend on the existence of political pragmatism for a living.  Without this &quot;debate&quot; their wisdom wouldn&#039;t be on display.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooks, Barone and most of the writers at the Bureau of Punditry depend on the existence of political pragmatism for a living.  Without this &#8220;debate&#8221; their wisdom wouldn&#8217;t be on display.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Dalton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Dalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To people like Michael Barone and David Brooks, politics is a self-referential game in which legislative victory or electoral victory is the sole standard of what is &quot;practical.&quot;  They seem unable to fathom that there is an &lt;i&gt;external reality&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To people like Michael Barone and David Brooks, politics is a self-referential game in which legislative victory or electoral victory is the sole standard of what is &#8220;practical.&#8221;  They seem unable to fathom that there is an <i>external reality</i>.</p>
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