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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/05/sinister-altruism/#comment-3548</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Then again, I take it back - I don’t know what personal tragedy has brought you to the stage of writing such a horrid response to this topic.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

None, thanks :-&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Then again, I take it back &#8211; I don’t know what personal tragedy has brought you to the stage of writing such a horrid response to this topic.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>None, thanks <img src='http://www.newclarion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':-|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jim May</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/05/sinister-altruism/#comment-3546</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yahoo Link got broken; I went ahead and fixed it.

An altruism-steeped culture, which coddles people tends to encourage them to act like children to get attention, which can be quite aggravating to the adults.

So while I certainly don&#039;t applaud the pusher&#039;s actions, it speaks to the dehumanizing effects of the coddling society that when faced with someone like this, the possibility that it&#039;s just someone engaging in infantile, attention-seeking behaviour is sufficiently likely that someone would be frustrated enough to act on it, like this.

Remember the jumper in the UK who was being goaded by the crowd to jump?   They asked him   &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1065033/How-far-bounce--The-extraordinary-taunts-sick-ghouls-jeered-teenager-leapt-death.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How far can you bounce?&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo Link got broken; I went ahead and fixed it.</p>
<p>An altruism-steeped culture, which coddles people tends to encourage them to act like children to get attention, which can be quite aggravating to the adults.</p>
<p>So while I certainly don&#8217;t applaud the pusher&#8217;s actions, it speaks to the dehumanizing effects of the coddling society that when faced with someone like this, the possibility that it&#8217;s just someone engaging in infantile, attention-seeking behaviour is sufficiently likely that someone would be frustrated enough to act on it, like this.</p>
<p>Remember the jumper in the UK who was being goaded by the crowd to jump?   They asked him   &#8220;<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1065033/How-far-bounce--The-extraordinary-taunts-sick-ghouls-jeered-teenager-leapt-death.html" rel="nofollow">How far can you bounce?&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amy Nasir</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/05/sinister-altruism/#comment-3545</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Nasir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert is right -- can you imagine Dagny Taggart cutting Cheryl Brooks down for jumping into the river?  Or perhaps Howard Roark sneering at Gail Wynand after Wynand decides to effectively end his life.  

Turns my stomach when such individuals are called thugs.  It was reported that both would-be jumpers had heavy financial losses.

We know why Cheryl and Wynand did what they did, and it was excruciatingly painful to see them willfully end their lives.  But we know they had no choice in their context, as they psychologically and philosophically could not get out of their respective states of mind.  

It&#039;s so easy to think the worst of these suicidal people -- as Objectivists, we have the luxury of not only understanding the right philosophy and moral code, but it&#039;s easy existentially as we live in the (still) freest county on earth.

I would never come to the most negative conclusion about someone&#039;s motivation for attempting suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert is right &#8212; can you imagine Dagny Taggart cutting Cheryl Brooks down for jumping into the river?  Or perhaps Howard Roark sneering at Gail Wynand after Wynand decides to effectively end his life.  </p>
<p>Turns my stomach when such individuals are called thugs.  It was reported that both would-be jumpers had heavy financial losses.</p>
<p>We know why Cheryl and Wynand did what they did, and it was excruciatingly painful to see them willfully end their lives.  But we know they had no choice in their context, as they psychologically and philosophically could not get out of their respective states of mind.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s so easy to think the worst of these suicidal people &#8212; as Objectivists, we have the luxury of not only understanding the right philosophy and moral code, but it&#8217;s easy existentially as we live in the (still) freest county on earth.</p>
<p>I would never come to the most negative conclusion about someone&#8217;s motivation for attempting suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/05/sinister-altruism/#comment-3542</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 01:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harold:  Your post has inconvenienced me.  Please go jump off a bridge.

Then again, I take it back - I don&#039;t know what personal tragedy has brought you to the stage of writing such a horrid response to this topic.

Certainly no one has a right to hold up traffic with such a public spectacle, but the motives behind such an action can range anywhere from publicity-seeking to great personal tragedy to mental illness or worse.  In the absence of evidence, I can only say, too bad such a thing happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harold:  Your post has inconvenienced me.  Please go jump off a bridge.</p>
<p>Then again, I take it back &#8211; I don&#8217;t know what personal tragedy has brought you to the stage of writing such a horrid response to this topic.</p>
<p>Certainly no one has a right to hold up traffic with such a public spectacle, but the motives behind such an action can range anywhere from publicity-seeking to great personal tragedy to mental illness or worse.  In the absence of evidence, I can only say, too bad such a thing happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/05/sinister-altruism/#comment-3540</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 00:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All three of them are &quot;thugs&quot; as far as I&#039;m concerned.  The ex-soldier is guilty for obvious reasons, but you have these other two who go out of their way to inconvenience other individuals with these stunts. 

I don&#039;t have compassion for such people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All three of them are &#8220;thugs&#8221; as far as I&#8217;m concerned.  The ex-soldier is guilty for obvious reasons, but you have these other two who go out of their way to inconvenience other individuals with these stunts. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have compassion for such people.</p>
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