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		<title>By: madmax</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5107</link>
		<dc:creator>madmax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

I guess that would depend on whether fractional reserve banking is inherently fraudulent or not which seems to be a hotly contested issue among free marketers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I guess that would depend on whether fractional reserve banking is inherently fraudulent or not which seems to be a hotly contested issue among free marketers.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Labeit</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5106</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Labeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is meant by &quot;free banking?&quot; I&#039;ve heard some refer to banking in the absence of government intervention as &quot;free banking.&quot; Others refer to fractional reserve banking in the absence of government intervention as &quot;free banking.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is meant by &#8220;free banking?&#8221; I&#8217;ve heard some refer to banking in the absence of government intervention as &#8220;free banking.&#8221; Others refer to fractional reserve banking in the absence of government intervention as &#8220;free banking.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5099</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I would second Salsman&#039;s book also. I just went to edit your comment in order to add our &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/9995129043/thenewcla-20/ref=nosim/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amazon affiliate link&lt;/a&gt; and saw that there was only one review of the book. And it was mine and it was from 1997. Crazy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I would second Salsman&#8217;s book also. I just went to edit your comment in order to add our <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/9995129043/thenewcla-20/ref=nosim/" rel="nofollow">Amazon affiliate link</a> and saw that there was only one review of the book. And it was mine and it was from 1997. Crazy!</p>
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		<title>By: Galileo Blogs</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5097</link>
		<dc:creator>Galileo Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an exhaustive look at the history of banking, I recommend Richard Salsman&#039;s book, &quot;Breaking the Banks: Central Banking Problems and Free Banking Solutions.&quot; He shows exactly how banks were free to issue private money during the &quot;free banking era&quot; during the three decades prior to the Civil War, but were still subject to state restrictions on branch banking. There were a variety of other restrictions on banks and, after the Civil War, on the issuance of money. It was by no means a laissez-faire period, but in important ways it was much more free than today.

Given that, the financial performance of the banks should have been better, and Richard shows that it was. Capital ratios were much higher and we never had a financial panic as large as the Great Depression, nor a period of sustained inflation like we had in the 1970s. In fact, the only periods of inflation were when we went off the gold standard, for example during the Civil War.

Richard covers the whole history of banking from the early 1800s (and possibly before, I can&#039;t remember) until the date he published the book in 1990. He backs up his work with data on all the key financial ratios that describe the financial performance of the banks in each era during this period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an exhaustive look at the history of banking, I recommend Richard Salsman&#8217;s book, &#8220;Breaking the Banks: Central Banking Problems and Free Banking Solutions.&#8221; He shows exactly how banks were free to issue private money during the &#8220;free banking era&#8221; during the three decades prior to the Civil War, but were still subject to state restrictions on branch banking. There were a variety of other restrictions on banks and, after the Civil War, on the issuance of money. It was by no means a laissez-faire period, but in important ways it was much more free than today.</p>
<p>Given that, the financial performance of the banks should have been better, and Richard shows that it was. Capital ratios were much higher and we never had a financial panic as large as the Great Depression, nor a period of sustained inflation like we had in the 1970s. In fact, the only periods of inflation were when we went off the gold standard, for example during the Civil War.</p>
<p>Richard covers the whole history of banking from the early 1800s (and possibly before, I can&#8217;t remember) until the date he published the book in 1990. He backs up his work with data on all the key financial ratios that describe the financial performance of the banks in each era during this period.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5094</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0803/p09s01-coop.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;op-ed by George Selgin&lt;/a&gt; (an outstanding &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0847675785/thenewcla-20/ref=nosim/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;defender&lt;/a&gt; of free banking) indicating that government meddling was an issue prior to the Federal Reserve System.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an <a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0803/p09s01-coop.html" rel="nofollow">op-ed by George Selgin</a> (an outstanding <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0847675785/thenewcla-20/ref=nosim/" rel="nofollow">defender</a> of free banking) indicating that government meddling was an issue prior to the Federal Reserve System.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Labeit</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5091</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Labeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Unusually large financial capital pools are indicative of ex nihilo credit expansion. If capital seems unbiquitous as it shouldn&#039;t then somethings up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Unusually large financial capital pools are indicative of ex nihilo credit expansion. If capital seems unbiquitous as it shouldn&#8217;t then somethings up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim May</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5080</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always thought that depth of the capital pool is a strong contributor to business cycles, and that the deeper the pool, the less dramatic such cycles tend to be.

19th century America, being a far shallower capital pool -- i.e. far fewer investors, with less capital than now -- means that the supply of capital is relatively small, and easily depleted or lost in bad ventures.  When there&#039;s only two banks in town and one fails, that&#039;s a big loss.  When one business venture is a huge success, the resulting boom is similarly large relative to the economy as a whole.

As an economy grows, however, the pool of capital (including the number of potential sources) outgrows these things.  Hurricane Katrina, as big as it was, and as exacerbated as it was by government, wasn&#039;t even enough to burst the bubble we now know was brewing in 2005.

In fact, what we are now seeing is that while our economy has outgrown natural disasters, there is one man-made disaster that has scaled up with it and remains fully capable of destroying it completely: government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always thought that depth of the capital pool is a strong contributor to business cycles, and that the deeper the pool, the less dramatic such cycles tend to be.</p>
<p>19th century America, being a far shallower capital pool &#8212; i.e. far fewer investors, with less capital than now &#8212; means that the supply of capital is relatively small, and easily depleted or lost in bad ventures.  When there&#8217;s only two banks in town and one fails, that&#8217;s a big loss.  When one business venture is a huge success, the resulting boom is similarly large relative to the economy as a whole.</p>
<p>As an economy grows, however, the pool of capital (including the number of potential sources) outgrows these things.  Hurricane Katrina, as big as it was, and as exacerbated as it was by government, wasn&#8217;t even enough to burst the bubble we now know was brewing in 2005.</p>
<p>In fact, what we are now seeing is that while our economy has outgrown natural disasters, there is one man-made disaster that has scaled up with it and remains fully capable of destroying it completely: government.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Labeit</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5078</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Labeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If governments didn&#039;t grant special privileges to banks in the 19th century by legalizing their failure to abide by the terms and conditions stipulated within the monetary irregular deposit contracts they entered into then the threat of bank runs would have compelled banks to act prudently and abide by their deposit contracts. Panics and bank runs would subsequently fade away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If governments didn&#8217;t grant special privileges to banks in the 19th century by legalizing their failure to abide by the terms and conditions stipulated within the monetary irregular deposit contracts they entered into then the threat of bank runs would have compelled banks to act prudently and abide by their deposit contracts. Panics and bank runs would subsequently fade away.</p>
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		<title>By: madmax</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5075</link>
		<dc:creator>madmax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I also seem to remember that the Panic of 1893 was brought about by bimetallism and some other money manipulations, but I’d have to check that in some books at home.&quot;

Anti-capitalists and anti-Austrians always cite the Panic of 1893 as a failure of Austrian theory because the Austrian Credit Cycle supposedly doesn&#039;t account for it, something I find doubtful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I also seem to remember that the Panic of 1893 was brought about by bimetallism and some other money manipulations, but I’d have to check that in some books at home.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anti-capitalists and anti-Austrians always cite the Panic of 1893 as a failure of Austrian theory because the Austrian Credit Cycle supposedly doesn&#8217;t account for it, something I find doubtful.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5072</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woods explicitly looks to history for support for the Austrian business cycle theory. Unfortunately, I&#039;ve returned the book to the library already so I can&#039;t dig out the specific evidence regarding pre-Fed panics. I remember at least one had its proximate cause in actions by the Second Bank of the United States (an early attempt at a central bank). I also seem to remember that the Panic of 1893 was brought about by bimetallism and some other money manipulations, but I&#039;d have to check that in some books at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woods explicitly looks to history for support for the Austrian business cycle theory. Unfortunately, I&#8217;ve returned the book to the library already so I can&#8217;t dig out the specific evidence regarding pre-Fed panics. I remember at least one had its proximate cause in actions by the Second Bank of the United States (an early attempt at a central bank). I also seem to remember that the Panic of 1893 was brought about by bimetallism and some other money manipulations, but I&#8217;d have to check that in some books at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Galileo Blogs</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5060</link>
		<dc:creator>Galileo Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I would hope that with today’s electronic information dissemination and financial product innovation, a laissez-faire capitalist economy would be incredibly sensitive and responsive to mal-adjustments and mal-investments, so much so that contractions would be marginal.&quot;

This is true, but it is important not to accept, even implicitly, the unreal standard for judging a free market propounded by those who think it is &quot;imperfect&quot; and needs to be fixed. The root of these ideas is that information is costless, that market participants magically gain all relevant facts and, by implication, there are no errors.

Such a state of affairs does not exist and is an unreal standard to judge any economic system.

I don&#039;t think we can really know how large the dislocations would be in a laissez-faire world. They would be smaller than what we experience today, and we would be experiencing them in the context of a vastly wealthier society, and one whose standard of living was growing at an incredibly fast rate.

But such dislocations, to the extent they occur, are no more problematic than the fact there is crime, or that businesses fail, or that there are days when the weather is bad. To even begin to demand that they magically &quot;go away&quot; (as the Keynesians and maybe even some free market advocates do) is to demand the unreal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I would hope that with today’s electronic information dissemination and financial product innovation, a laissez-faire capitalist economy would be incredibly sensitive and responsive to mal-adjustments and mal-investments, so much so that contractions would be marginal.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is true, but it is important not to accept, even implicitly, the unreal standard for judging a free market propounded by those who think it is &#8220;imperfect&#8221; and needs to be fixed. The root of these ideas is that information is costless, that market participants magically gain all relevant facts and, by implication, there are no errors.</p>
<p>Such a state of affairs does not exist and is an unreal standard to judge any economic system.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we can really know how large the dislocations would be in a laissez-faire world. They would be smaller than what we experience today, and we would be experiencing them in the context of a vastly wealthier society, and one whose standard of living was growing at an incredibly fast rate.</p>
<p>But such dislocations, to the extent they occur, are no more problematic than the fact there is crime, or that businesses fail, or that there are days when the weather is bad. To even begin to demand that they magically &#8220;go away&#8221; (as the Keynesians and maybe even some free market advocates do) is to demand the unreal.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Labeit</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5059</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Labeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woods is one of the Institute&#039;s chief historians I believe. He&#039;s written on the Constitution and U.S. history. Ari Armstrong has critiqued Woods&#039;s historical convictions, especially those regarding the Civil War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woods is one of the Institute&#8217;s chief historians I believe. He&#8217;s written on the Constitution and U.S. history. Ari Armstrong has critiqued Woods&#8217;s historical convictions, especially those regarding the Civil War.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Labeit</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5058</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Labeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking that a primary cause of the bad information within the former car industry was probably the slow dissemination of financial and economic information coupled with sensationalist information. Information like that expires quickly. How do you know the real stock value of car company X if you invest from California and the exchange is situated on Wall Street?

To be sure, the market foments constant creative destruction (perfect competition is a neoclassical fantasy) but I don&#039;t know if I would call it a business cycle since I&#039;m guessing the contractions would be too few and far apart to legitimize such a categorization.

Also, by &quot;business cycle&quot; I mean a macroeconomic contraction, an economy-wide recession where the productive capacity of the entire economy shrinks for at least two whole fiscal quarters. The car contraction surely liquidated many mal-investments but I don&#039;t know if it contribited to a macro-contraction lasting two fiscal quarters. 

Also, historical examples are tainted inevitably by government intervention. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised given everything I&#039;ve read/seen if the government was involved somehow.

I would hope that with today&#039;s electronic information dissemination and financial product innovation, a laissez-faire capitalist economy would be incredibly sensitive and responsive to mal-adjustments and mal-investments, so much so that contractions would be marginal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking that a primary cause of the bad information within the former car industry was probably the slow dissemination of financial and economic information coupled with sensationalist information. Information like that expires quickly. How do you know the real stock value of car company X if you invest from California and the exchange is situated on Wall Street?</p>
<p>To be sure, the market foments constant creative destruction (perfect competition is a neoclassical fantasy) but I don&#8217;t know if I would call it a business cycle since I&#8217;m guessing the contractions would be too few and far apart to legitimize such a categorization.</p>
<p>Also, by &#8220;business cycle&#8221; I mean a macroeconomic contraction, an economy-wide recession where the productive capacity of the entire economy shrinks for at least two whole fiscal quarters. The car contraction surely liquidated many mal-investments but I don&#8217;t know if it contribited to a macro-contraction lasting two fiscal quarters. </p>
<p>Also, historical examples are tainted inevitably by government intervention. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised given everything I&#8217;ve read/seen if the government was involved somehow.</p>
<p>I would hope that with today&#8217;s electronic information dissemination and financial product innovation, a laissez-faire capitalist economy would be incredibly sensitive and responsive to mal-adjustments and mal-investments, so much so that contractions would be marginal.</p>
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		<title>By: Galileo Blogs</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5056</link>
		<dc:creator>Galileo Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, but...

The false information you refer to can occur through entrepreneurial actions. In particular, this is true when scientists and entrepreneurs develop a wonderful new technology. People invest in it in many ways, trying out many business methods, before the best way is sorted out by the market. That sorting out process can result in dislocations.

For example, there were (if I recall correctly) over 1,000 car companies at the turn of the last century. This sorted itself down to a handful. But, before that could happen, millions of dollars were raised in the capital markets and invested in sundry factories and processes. There was a natural boom. Then, as the winners emerged (Henry Ford, et al.), there was a consolidation period, or a bust.

From an informational perspective, it is not that different than the bad information supplied by manipulated interest rates. Most of those entrepreneurs had &quot;bad&quot; information. When the market revealed that it was bad, they had to close down, perhaps in many cases through bankruptcies and the liquidation of financial capital.

The important point here, though, is that this result is natural and good. There is no such thing as &quot;perfect information&quot; in the marketplace. However, what is perfect about a free market is that it allows success to be rewarded to the fullest extent possible, and errors and failure to result in liquidation. On a large scale, when this happens, the economy could experience small dislocations or cycles, but they would be much less severe than those caused by monetary manipulation.

Moreover, those dislocations are the result of a good and productive process whereby new technologies get rapidly incorporated into the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, but&#8230;</p>
<p>The false information you refer to can occur through entrepreneurial actions. In particular, this is true when scientists and entrepreneurs develop a wonderful new technology. People invest in it in many ways, trying out many business methods, before the best way is sorted out by the market. That sorting out process can result in dislocations.</p>
<p>For example, there were (if I recall correctly) over 1,000 car companies at the turn of the last century. This sorted itself down to a handful. But, before that could happen, millions of dollars were raised in the capital markets and invested in sundry factories and processes. There was a natural boom. Then, as the winners emerged (Henry Ford, et al.), there was a consolidation period, or a bust.</p>
<p>From an informational perspective, it is not that different than the bad information supplied by manipulated interest rates. Most of those entrepreneurs had &#8220;bad&#8221; information. When the market revealed that it was bad, they had to close down, perhaps in many cases through bankruptcies and the liquidation of financial capital.</p>
<p>The important point here, though, is that this result is natural and good. There is no such thing as &#8220;perfect information&#8221; in the marketplace. However, what is perfect about a free market is that it allows success to be rewarded to the fullest extent possible, and errors and failure to result in liquidation. On a large scale, when this happens, the economy could experience small dislocations or cycles, but they would be much less severe than those caused by monetary manipulation.</p>
<p>Moreover, those dislocations are the result of a good and productive process whereby new technologies get rapidly incorporated into the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Parille</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5055</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Parille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A minor point: Woods is an historian, not an economist.  He just gave a fascinating lecture available for free on the Mises.org on the relationship between facts and theory.

http://mises.org/media.aspx?action=author&amp;ID=424</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A minor point: Woods is an historian, not an economist.  He just gave a fascinating lecture available for free on the Mises.org on the relationship between facts and theory.</p>
<p><a href="http://mises.org/media.aspx?action=author&#038;ID=424" rel="nofollow">http://mises.org/media.aspx?action=author&#038;ID=424</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Labeit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Labeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to beat a dead horse but if the business cycle refers to the recurrent phases of economic growth and economic contraction, I think a purely laissez-faire capitalist society would relieve itself of such fluctuation. The reason why is as follows. Business cycles as we know them in our Keynesian state are caused by &quot;artifical&quot; bank credit expansion by the Fed, an increase in the supply of loanable funds unsupported by a preceding rise in savings. This rise in the supply of loanable funds decreases interest rates but since such credit expansion is unsupported by savings, the interest rate declines it causes do not reflect consumer valuations. Entrepreneurs see this decline in interest rates and now a whole fleet of business undertakings that were initially considered unprofitable now look profitable. Entrepreneurs thus take advantage of the interest rate fall by borrowing money and use it as financial capital to buy productive factors with which to embark on these newly profitable business undertakings.  

Now all of this is caused simply by the advancement of false information. Its caused by credit expansion unbacked by increased savings which yield inaccurate interest rates, rates that do not reflect the real demand for and supply of credit. In a free market, interest rates will always reflect as accurate as possible the demand for and supply of credit. No entrepreneur would accept unreliable inflationary currency that offers faux interest rate signals. The business cycle is caused by false information propagated by methods which either wouldn&#039;t exist in a free market al all or would exist only on the fringes along side things like loan sharking where its economic influence would be neligible at best. Bankers in such an environment would not be allowed to systematically violate monetary irregular deposit contracts and therefore inflate the money supply as they do today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to beat a dead horse but if the business cycle refers to the recurrent phases of economic growth and economic contraction, I think a purely laissez-faire capitalist society would relieve itself of such fluctuation. The reason why is as follows. Business cycles as we know them in our Keynesian state are caused by &#8220;artifical&#8221; bank credit expansion by the Fed, an increase in the supply of loanable funds unsupported by a preceding rise in savings. This rise in the supply of loanable funds decreases interest rates but since such credit expansion is unsupported by savings, the interest rate declines it causes do not reflect consumer valuations. Entrepreneurs see this decline in interest rates and now a whole fleet of business undertakings that were initially considered unprofitable now look profitable. Entrepreneurs thus take advantage of the interest rate fall by borrowing money and use it as financial capital to buy productive factors with which to embark on these newly profitable business undertakings.  </p>
<p>Now all of this is caused simply by the advancement of false information. Its caused by credit expansion unbacked by increased savings which yield inaccurate interest rates, rates that do not reflect the real demand for and supply of credit. In a free market, interest rates will always reflect as accurate as possible the demand for and supply of credit. No entrepreneur would accept unreliable inflationary currency that offers faux interest rate signals. The business cycle is caused by false information propagated by methods which either wouldn&#8217;t exist in a free market al all or would exist only on the fringes along side things like loan sharking where its economic influence would be neligible at best. Bankers in such an environment would not be allowed to systematically violate monetary irregular deposit contracts and therefore inflate the money supply as they do today.</p>
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		<title>By: Galileo Blogs</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5050</link>
		<dc:creator>Galileo Blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on my observations, I think business cycles will happen in a laissez-faire world, with private banking and (likely) gold-based money. They will be much smaller, though, without the monetary &quot;stimulus&quot; provided by central banking, which can create gigantic cycles.

The cause of these natural, small disturbances or cycles is technological change and natural periods of optimism and consolidation that ensue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on my observations, I think business cycles will happen in a laissez-faire world, with private banking and (likely) gold-based money. They will be much smaller, though, without the monetary &#8220;stimulus&#8221; provided by central banking, which can create gigantic cycles.</p>
<p>The cause of these natural, small disturbances or cycles is technological change and natural periods of optimism and consolidation that ensue.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Labeit</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5048</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Labeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If banks adhered to their monetary irregular deposit contracts (100% reserve) in the absence of a central bank than fractional reserve banking would indeed be at best a nuisance. But the reason why I bring up the inevitable problem of fractional reserve banking is because an astute Keynesian, aftering hearing that central banking causes the business cycle, would rebut that the business cycle historically predates central banking and that, therefore, central banking could not possibly be a sufficient condition for the rise of the business cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If banks adhered to their monetary irregular deposit contracts (100% reserve) in the absence of a central bank than fractional reserve banking would indeed be at best a nuisance. But the reason why I bring up the inevitable problem of fractional reserve banking is because an astute Keynesian, aftering hearing that central banking causes the business cycle, would rebut that the business cycle historically predates central banking and that, therefore, central banking could not possibly be a sufficient condition for the rise of the business cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5044</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fractional reserve banking under a central banking system is the primary way that inflation is disbursed (and dispersed) throughout the economy. If banks were 100% reserve warehouses, then the central bank would have to helicopter drop money in a much more open and visible way.

Fractional reserve banking, as such, is no big deal&#8212;even today. The central bank and its monopoly on money is the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fractional reserve banking under a central banking system is the primary way that inflation is disbursed (and dispersed) throughout the economy. If banks were 100% reserve warehouses, then the central bank would have to helicopter drop money in a much more open and visible way.</p>
<p>Fractional reserve banking, as such, is no big deal&mdash;even today. The central bank and its monopoly on money is the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Labeit</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/07/review-of-meltdown/#comment-5038</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Labeit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 23:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends on your definition of FRB. I find that people subscribe to different definitions apparently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends on your definition of FRB. I find that people subscribe to different definitions apparently.</p>
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