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	<title>Comments on: Watching the Water Circle</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/11/watching-the-water-circle/#comment-6566</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;all libertarian and quasi-libertarian political philosophies are anarchist&quot; is an unfortunate one that is tarring Objectivism unjustly -- Objectivism holding, as Embedded I aptly notes, that a properly limited government is absolutely necessary.  

Unfortunately, it takes some explaining and development to communicate this, and any time you have a complex idea like that, it can be overwhelmed by memes.  One of the most popular that I&#039;ve seen around the net sets up a strawman of a &quot;typical conservative voter,&quot; asks that voter if he wants limited government and a pure free-market society, and then points to a &quot;perfect&quot; example of those concepts in practice... in anarchist Somalia.   Complete with a street scene of &quot;exotic other&quot; people toting guns and smiling with malice.

As Morbo would say, however, &quot;Liberty does not work that way!&quot;  See, we can use memes too.  True, the libertarians pay lip service to anarchy, mostly because they take what should be developed principles and deem them axiomatic, such as the non-initiation principle.  Objectivists, meanwhile, know that anarchy is fruitless, and is really just trading one big despot for a million little despots.  In neither case are individual rights protected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;all libertarian and quasi-libertarian political philosophies are anarchist&#8221; is an unfortunate one that is tarring Objectivism unjustly &#8212; Objectivism holding, as Embedded I aptly notes, that a properly limited government is absolutely necessary.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, it takes some explaining and development to communicate this, and any time you have a complex idea like that, it can be overwhelmed by memes.  One of the most popular that I&#8217;ve seen around the net sets up a strawman of a &#8220;typical conservative voter,&#8221; asks that voter if he wants limited government and a pure free-market society, and then points to a &#8220;perfect&#8221; example of those concepts in practice&#8230; in anarchist Somalia.   Complete with a street scene of &#8220;exotic other&#8221; people toting guns and smiling with malice.</p>
<p>As Morbo would say, however, &#8220;Liberty does not work that way!&#8221;  See, we can use memes too.  True, the libertarians pay lip service to anarchy, mostly because they take what should be developed principles and deem them axiomatic, such as the non-initiation principle.  Objectivists, meanwhile, know that anarchy is fruitless, and is really just trading one big despot for a million little despots.  In neither case are individual rights protected.</p>
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		<title>By: Embedded I</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/11/watching-the-water-circle/#comment-6565</link>
		<dc:creator>Embedded I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judge Napolitano wears his Libertarian underwear &lt;b&gt;over&lt;/b&gt; his pants:
&quot;&lt;em&gt;Government is the negation of freedom&lt;/em&gt;.&quot;
His statement advocates for anarchism.    
Freedom in a political context does not mean anarchy, it means freedom from coercive interference initiated by other men.  Since there will always  be men willing to achieve their goals by using force on others. anarchy is an immediate ticket to the warlord society of Somalia.

Of course, &lt;b&gt;only&lt;/b&gt; Objectivism holds that a constitutionally-enshrined government-monopoly on the use of force —&amp; then only as retaliation— is the only means to protect the individual rights &amp; freedoms of a nation&#039;s citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge Napolitano wears his Libertarian underwear <b>over</b> his pants:<br />
&#8220;<em>Government is the negation of freedom</em>.&#8221;<br />
His statement advocates for anarchism.<br />
Freedom in a political context does not mean anarchy, it means freedom from coercive interference initiated by other men.  Since there will always  be men willing to achieve their goals by using force on others. anarchy is an immediate ticket to the warlord society of Somalia.</p>
<p>Of course, <b>only</b> Objectivism holds that a constitutionally-enshrined government-monopoly on the use of force —&amp; then only as retaliation— is the only means to protect the individual rights &amp; freedoms of a nation&#8217;s citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Fareed</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/11/watching-the-water-circle/#comment-6564</link>
		<dc:creator>Fareed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who do you blame though. The president after all is the result of his culture. So its safe to say its a sacrificial culture and that maybe the people do really stink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who do you blame though. The president after all is the result of his culture. So its safe to say its a sacrificial culture and that maybe the people do really stink.</p>
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		<title>By: Lionell Griffith</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2009/11/watching-the-water-circle/#comment-6563</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionell Griffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they said Atlas Shrugged was &quot;unrealistic&quot;.   As near as I can tell, our &quot;leaders&quot; are using it as a script.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they said Atlas Shrugged was &#8220;unrealistic&#8221;.   As near as I can tell, our &#8220;leaders&#8221; are using it as a script.</p>
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