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		<title>By: Patti</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2010/07/ground-zero-mosque-war-by-infiltration/#comment-8869</link>
		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s definitely something that everyone needs to be  a lot more pro-active about preventing! Check out the site www.atlasshrugs.com.  Islamism can however collapse on itself, the fall of the Ottoman empire is proof of that ,,AND the two Islamic groups fighting over control of Gaza right now can&#039;t govern themselves, much less a country the size of America. Also check out the site Islam-watch.org,,very compelling information compiled largely from people who LEFT Islam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s definitely something that everyone needs to be  a lot more pro-active about preventing! Check out the site <a href="http://www.atlasshrugs.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.atlasshrugs.com</a>.  Islamism can however collapse on itself, the fall of the Ottoman empire is proof of that ,,AND the two Islamic groups fighting over control of Gaza right now can&#8217;t govern themselves, much less a country the size of America. Also check out the site Islam-watch.org,,very compelling information compiled largely from people who LEFT Islam!</p>
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		<title>By: westborn</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2010/07/ground-zero-mosque-war-by-infiltration/#comment-8840</link>
		<dc:creator>westborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 14:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America is a nation of immigrants. For centuries settlers poured into the new land from all parts of Europe, especially from England and western Europe. They eagerly assimilated into the new &quot;America,&quot; embraced its language and culture, lived its principles of self-reliance and industrious enterprise. Most significantly, they all shared the common bond of the same white race and its congenital traits. Ethnic differences by country origin readily melted away and fused into their root identity of race as Euro-white Americans. America was  predominantly a white nation for centuries - until the 1950s.

As the Civil Rights movement gained political power in the 1950s, vote-conscious legislators were pressured for increased immigration from nonwhite countries, especially Africa and the Caribbean. After many aborted attempts at changes in immigration laws, finally the landmark immigration laws of 1965 opened the borders to a deluge of nonwhite immigrants. While still restricting immigration of whites, a critical part of the law permitted unlimited immigration based on the criterion of family reunification. Thus recent nonwhite immigrants already in the U.S. could import their relatives who, in turn, could bring over more relatives. Many join the welfare roles soon after arrival. Unlike white immigrants of the past, the nonwhite newcomers resist assimilation, tend to cling to the languages, behaviors, dress and cultures of their native races.

The U.S. is no longer a melting pot of white ethnic immigrants merged into a single national blend. It is instead a mosaic of countless sharp-edge tiles, each of diverse race and color. Racial and tribal groups, along with infinite shades of brown, are visibly delineated, often mutually hostile, preserving here the identity, language, dress and culture of strange third-world origins.

The Census Bureau projects a nonwhite majority nationwide about 2050, Euro-whites the fading minority. This demographic pattern, combined with rising rates of interracial marriage, virtually assures the extinction of the white race in the U.S. The U.S. will then resemble in no way the original &quot;America,&quot; only third- world regions such as Africa.

Scenarios for the Next Fifty Years:


Scenario 1. Acquiescence. The most probable future for whites is their ultimate extinction in the U.S. They just don&#039;t care about the demise of their race. From the current mosaic will emerge a new melting pot of racial hybrids, many shades of brown, few of either purely white or black race, very similar to the population hodgepodge of Brazil today.

Scenario 2. White Takeback of Our Country. At white apathy&#039;s opposite extreme, there exist today passionate and activist white -preservation organizations along with their cousin groups of white supremacists, determined to roll back the nonwhite invasions and restore the country to its original Euro- white preeminence.  The more moderate envision political action to repeal anti-white Civil Rights and antidiscrimination laws. The  result could be bloody race wars of unimaginable scope in casualties and consequences. It is hard to fantasize any winners in such a mutually annihilating civil war.

Scenario 3. Secession from the U.S. Many whites reject the above scenarios as unrealistic strategies for white preservation. They recognize as simply accomplished fact the irremovable presence of 80 million nonwhites in the U.S.  As the only remaining and realistic alternative, they thus advocate some form of 
racial separation. Such separateness of the races and living comfortably with one&#039;s &quot;own kind&quot; are not only a prized vision of Euro-whites. Many black and Hispanic activists seek the same geographical identity. Any state (or groups of states) could secede, abolish all anti-white &quot;Civil Rights&quot; laws, restore the traditional &quot;America&quot; 
and its values. This strategy, despite its challenges of painful relocations, upheavals and reestablishing of family roots, provides the hard but realistic path to real preservation of the Euro-white race. Such a path assumes dedicated 
firm white will and numbers who genuinely care enough about white preservation for their children to do so rather than merely dream so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America is a nation of immigrants. For centuries settlers poured into the new land from all parts of Europe, especially from England and western Europe. They eagerly assimilated into the new &#8220;America,&#8221; embraced its language and culture, lived its principles of self-reliance and industrious enterprise. Most significantly, they all shared the common bond of the same white race and its congenital traits. Ethnic differences by country origin readily melted away and fused into their root identity of race as Euro-white Americans. America was  predominantly a white nation for centuries &#8211; until the 1950s.</p>
<p>As the Civil Rights movement gained political power in the 1950s, vote-conscious legislators were pressured for increased immigration from nonwhite countries, especially Africa and the Caribbean. After many aborted attempts at changes in immigration laws, finally the landmark immigration laws of 1965 opened the borders to a deluge of nonwhite immigrants. While still restricting immigration of whites, a critical part of the law permitted unlimited immigration based on the criterion of family reunification. Thus recent nonwhite immigrants already in the U.S. could import their relatives who, in turn, could bring over more relatives. Many join the welfare roles soon after arrival. Unlike white immigrants of the past, the nonwhite newcomers resist assimilation, tend to cling to the languages, behaviors, dress and cultures of their native races.</p>
<p>The U.S. is no longer a melting pot of white ethnic immigrants merged into a single national blend. It is instead a mosaic of countless sharp-edge tiles, each of diverse race and color. Racial and tribal groups, along with infinite shades of brown, are visibly delineated, often mutually hostile, preserving here the identity, language, dress and culture of strange third-world origins.</p>
<p>The Census Bureau projects a nonwhite majority nationwide about 2050, Euro-whites the fading minority. This demographic pattern, combined with rising rates of interracial marriage, virtually assures the extinction of the white race in the U.S. The U.S. will then resemble in no way the original &#8220;America,&#8221; only third- world regions such as Africa.</p>
<p>Scenarios for the Next Fifty Years:</p>
<p>Scenario 1. Acquiescence. The most probable future for whites is their ultimate extinction in the U.S. They just don&#8217;t care about the demise of their race. From the current mosaic will emerge a new melting pot of racial hybrids, many shades of brown, few of either purely white or black race, very similar to the population hodgepodge of Brazil today.</p>
<p>Scenario 2. White Takeback of Our Country. At white apathy&#8217;s opposite extreme, there exist today passionate and activist white -preservation organizations along with their cousin groups of white supremacists, determined to roll back the nonwhite invasions and restore the country to its original Euro- white preeminence.  The more moderate envision political action to repeal anti-white Civil Rights and antidiscrimination laws. The  result could be bloody race wars of unimaginable scope in casualties and consequences. It is hard to fantasize any winners in such a mutually annihilating civil war.</p>
<p>Scenario 3. Secession from the U.S. Many whites reject the above scenarios as unrealistic strategies for white preservation. They recognize as simply accomplished fact the irremovable presence of 80 million nonwhites in the U.S.  As the only remaining and realistic alternative, they thus advocate some form of<br />
racial separation. Such separateness of the races and living comfortably with one&#8217;s &#8220;own kind&#8221; are not only a prized vision of Euro-whites. Many black and Hispanic activists seek the same geographical identity. Any state (or groups of states) could secede, abolish all anti-white &#8220;Civil Rights&#8221; laws, restore the traditional &#8220;America&#8221;<br />
and its values. This strategy, despite its challenges of painful relocations, upheavals and reestablishing of family roots, provides the hard but realistic path to real preservation of the Euro-white race. Such a path assumes dedicated<br />
firm white will and numbers who genuinely care enough about white preservation for their children to do so rather than merely dream so.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim May</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2010/07/ground-zero-mosque-war-by-infiltration/#comment-8836</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 05:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: perhaps, but I don&#039;t imagine there was any teachability in someone who leads off with &quot;It&#039;s the immigration, &lt;em&gt;period.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;  

The link goes to my earlier post on the matter, which has everything you note.... not that &quot;Roy&quot; bothered to notice.

It is true that there exist many that fit your characterization, but in my experience, especially in regards to the &quot;anti-ILLEGAL immigration&quot; dodge, far too many of those spouting that sort of thing are being less than forthright with their real motives.  Rare is the person whose &quot;close the borders&quot; argument is even respectable.

So, while I&#039;m less optimistic than you are in this respect, I do appreciate and will note your comment feedback, especially your point that &quot;too few are teaching it&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: perhaps, but I don&#8217;t imagine there was any teachability in someone who leads off with &#8220;It&#8217;s the immigration, <em>period.</em>&#8221;  </p>
<p>The link goes to my earlier post on the matter, which has everything you note&#8230;. not that &#8220;Roy&#8221; bothered to notice.</p>
<p>It is true that there exist many that fit your characterization, but in my experience, especially in regards to the &#8220;anti-ILLEGAL immigration&#8221; dodge, far too many of those spouting that sort of thing are being less than forthright with their real motives.  Rare is the person whose &#8220;close the borders&#8221; argument is even respectable.</p>
<p>So, while I&#8217;m less optimistic than you are in this respect, I do appreciate and will note your comment feedback, especially your point that &#8220;too few are teaching it&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8212; The New Clarion</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2010/07/ground-zero-mosque-war-by-infiltration/#comment-8834</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8212; The New Clarion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 03:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 02:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is the slow detonation of ten thousand thermonuclear bombs that no one chooses to see.&quot;

Perfectly stated, L-C.

Jim, I think you just blew a &quot;teachable moment.&quot;  I hear l5j6f7&#039;s arguments every day from people in the community.  It is not xenophobia that drives them, but the knowledge that there is a problem whose genuine solutions are proving too elusive for the concrete-bound epistemology that prevails today.  They call for limits on immigration because that&#039;s the one approach that they completely grasp that SEEMS like it will solve the problem.  The real answer, of course, is to abolish the welfare state so that open immigration becomes a win-win situation for virtually everybody and issues such as the Islamicization of a nation are more clearly distinguished for what they are... but to reach the point at which most people will agree to dismantle the welfare state, there is an entire rational, objective philosophical foundation that those people must understand.  Too few of them realize they need to learn it, and too few are teaching it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is the slow detonation of ten thousand thermonuclear bombs that no one chooses to see.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perfectly stated, L-C.</p>
<p>Jim, I think you just blew a &#8220;teachable moment.&#8221;  I hear l5j6f7&#8242;s arguments every day from people in the community.  It is not xenophobia that drives them, but the knowledge that there is a problem whose genuine solutions are proving too elusive for the concrete-bound epistemology that prevails today.  They call for limits on immigration because that&#8217;s the one approach that they completely grasp that SEEMS like it will solve the problem.  The real answer, of course, is to abolish the welfare state so that open immigration becomes a win-win situation for virtually everybody and issues such as the Islamicization of a nation are more clearly distinguished for what they are&#8230; but to reach the point at which most people will agree to dismantle the welfare state, there is an entire rational, objective philosophical foundation that those people must understand.  Too few of them realize they need to learn it, and too few are teaching it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 02:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim May,&#039;

I&#039;m not sure why you think tossing out insults constitutes a valid argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim May,&#8217;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why you think tossing out insults constitutes a valid argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim May</title>
		<link>http://www.newclarion.com/2010/07/ground-zero-mosque-war-by-infiltration/#comment-8831</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 22:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xenophobe &quot;l5j6f7&quot;: your sorry rationalizations for your particular vice are destroyed &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newclarion.com/2010/04/rights-of-man/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xenophobe &#8220;l5j6f7&#8243;: your sorry rationalizations for your particular vice are destroyed <a href="http://www.newclarion.com/2010/04/rights-of-man/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for playing.</p>
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		<title>By: l5j6f7</title>
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		<dc:creator>l5j6f7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all about the immigration, period.   The USA and the West in general is doomed if it continues admitting huge numbers of non-Western peoples under the banner of &quot;diversity and multi-culturalism&quot;.  

Furthermore, Islam is not just a religion but a political ideology as well and one fairly hostile to the Western tradition of individual liberty and a decent separation of church and state.   

It&#039;s not the all or most Muslims are bomb throwing radicals; it&#039;s that they keep coming in numbers ever growing, raising mosques and spreading the ideology of the sword, created by the Arab general, Mohammed.  

Stop or at least reduce immigration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all about the immigration, period.   The USA and the West in general is doomed if it continues admitting huge numbers of non-Western peoples under the banner of &#8220;diversity and multi-culturalism&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Furthermore, Islam is not just a religion but a political ideology as well and one fairly hostile to the Western tradition of individual liberty and a decent separation of church and state.   </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the all or most Muslims are bomb throwing radicals; it&#8217;s that they keep coming in numbers ever growing, raising mosques and spreading the ideology of the sword, created by the Arab general, Mohammed.  </p>
<p>Stop or at least reduce immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: L-C</title>
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		<dc:creator>L-C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 16:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The politicians of Sweden are not merely pacifist toward Islam, but engaged in its expansion. It is an aggressive form of one-way pacifism aimed against the remnants of Western civilization. I doubt it will be more than one generation (if that) until the non-secluded non-millionaires start feeling the heat all over the country, as is already the case in large parts of southern Sweden.

The aim and current course of this force is a Dark Ages from which there might never spring a Renaissance. Not the Middle Ages, but the Final Age.

It may very well be the most decisive war in history. The militarily powerful Soviet Union might have been puny by comparison. They still wanted life, to an extent, and that was more worth than their thousands of nuclear warheads.

Gradualism is a method of war that is unfathomably effective against pragmatists, altruists and pacifists. It is the slow detonation of ten thousand thermonuclear bombs that no one chooses to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politicians of Sweden are not merely pacifist toward Islam, but engaged in its expansion. It is an aggressive form of one-way pacifism aimed against the remnants of Western civilization. I doubt it will be more than one generation (if that) until the non-secluded non-millionaires start feeling the heat all over the country, as is already the case in large parts of southern Sweden.</p>
<p>The aim and current course of this force is a Dark Ages from which there might never spring a Renaissance. Not the Middle Ages, but the Final Age.</p>
<p>It may very well be the most decisive war in history. The militarily powerful Soviet Union might have been puny by comparison. They still wanted life, to an extent, and that was more worth than their thousands of nuclear warheads.</p>
<p>Gradualism is a method of war that is unfathomably effective against pragmatists, altruists and pacifists. It is the slow detonation of ten thousand thermonuclear bombs that no one chooses to see.</p>
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		<title>By: madmax</title>
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		<dc:creator>madmax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 04:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ground Zero Mosque is not an easy case. I can see Objectivists being divided on this for legitimate reasons. Applications of Objectivism to difficult subjects like war, how to deal with Islam, immigration, etc are not easy. In today&#039;s egalitarian Leftist world characterized by its ruthless commitment to moral relativism, we will never be able to defend ourselves against Islam. Also, this blog post talks about &quot;No Go&quot; zones. We already have those and they aren&#039;t Islamic. They are black and Hispanic. We&#039;ll get the Islamic ones too in time. The United States is on its way to looking like Brazil. 

In its current state, America can not defend itself against Islam and it can not assimilate its immigrants and therefore perpetuate the best parts of its cultural legacy. Once the demographics change to the point where Americans of European descent are less than 50% of the total population, there will be no going back. 

This country is living on borrowed time. Celebrating the 4th of July is in many ways a pointless pursuit. The America of the Founding Fathers is dead. ObamaCare was its official deathknell. Tough to be positive these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ground Zero Mosque is not an easy case. I can see Objectivists being divided on this for legitimate reasons. Applications of Objectivism to difficult subjects like war, how to deal with Islam, immigration, etc are not easy. In today&#8217;s egalitarian Leftist world characterized by its ruthless commitment to moral relativism, we will never be able to defend ourselves against Islam. Also, this blog post talks about &#8220;No Go&#8221; zones. We already have those and they aren&#8217;t Islamic. They are black and Hispanic. We&#8217;ll get the Islamic ones too in time. The United States is on its way to looking like Brazil. </p>
<p>In its current state, America can not defend itself against Islam and it can not assimilate its immigrants and therefore perpetuate the best parts of its cultural legacy. Once the demographics change to the point where Americans of European descent are less than 50% of the total population, there will be no going back. </p>
<p>This country is living on borrowed time. Celebrating the 4th of July is in many ways a pointless pursuit. The America of the Founding Fathers is dead. ObamaCare was its official deathknell. Tough to be positive these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 01:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, but how are you proposing to stop it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, but how are you proposing to stop it?</p>
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